
So here we go. Glacc and I created this thing as an extension of the discussions we have on and off the message boards for our leagues. I've been talking to Glacc and others of you about the draft for our football league so I thought a good first post would be a draft analysis. Let's see how this goes:
| Round 1 | ||
|---|---|---|
| 1. | Chris Johnson | Death Roe |
| 2. | Adrian Peterson | redhypocycloid |
| 3. | Maurice Jones-Drew | Low Country Terps |
| 4. | Ray Rice | bluehypocycloid |
| 5. | Frank Gore | McKinney Maulers |
| 6. | Michael Turner | First Down Sydrome |
| 7. | Andre Johnson | Anchor Babies |
| 8. | Drew Brees | TheYellowDart |
| 9. | Ryan Mathews | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 10. | Steven Jackson | G9s |
| 11. | Aaron Rodgers | Chris Roe is Great |
| 12. | Shonn Greene | Hamski |
The first five picks here seem to be the consensus. My strategy this season was basically this: Try and grab a top tier running back in round 1 and then go WR WR WR for the next 3 and then at round 5 start loading up on RB's. Simple enough. My theory was the RB's get shallow fast so this season it will be important to get some top tier wide receivers (2 if i could) and gamble that I could find value in the middle rounds at RB while waiting on a QB and a loaded class of tight ends.
Once i got the first pick I knew I was getting CJ or AP and then I had to figure out what WR's I thought I wanted at the turn. As for the round itself my only real questions are Turner over Andre Johnson (in a PPR league Andre Johnson could be more valuable than all but the top 5 RB's), Ryan Mathews (he was ranked right in there though) and Shonne Green (good O-line but bad offense). You could argue that Randy Moss is a better pick than either of those guys and Moss is ranked as the top receiver in some circles; which leads us to...
| Round 2 | ||
|---|---|---|
| 1. | Randy Moss | Hamski |
| 2. | Calvin Johnson | Chris Roe is Great |
| 3. | Peyton Manning | G9s |
| 4. | Rashard Mendenhall | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 5. | Reggie Wayne | TheYellowDart |
| 6. | DeAngelo Williams | Anchor Babies |
| 7. | Miles Austin | First Down Syndrome |
| 8. | Matt Schaub | McKinney Maulers |
| 9. | Roddy White | bluehypocycloid |
| 10. | Brandon Marshall | Low Country Terps |
| 11. | Ryan Grant | redhypocycloid |
| 12. | Larry Fitzgerald | Death Roe |
So there goes Moss. Guess it doesn't matter what order your picks come off the board if you're picking 12 or 13. Moss in my opinion slipped to 12 but again so far the top ranked players are coming off the board generally where they should. Dave was in a tough position here. If he waited another round all the 2 tier RB's were probably going to be gone (and they were). There's an argument to be made that Ced Benson is a better reach here. DeAngelo Williams can go off week to week but so can The Daily Show. My queue in this round looked like this (In the order i wanted them): Roddy White, Greg Jennings, Larry Fitzgerald, Steve Smith (Car). Even though there were some very good RB 2's available still I was sticking to my strategy hoping I could load up on potential RB's later and was specifically targeting Fred Jackson (slipping because of his injury - Who i got), Donald Brown, Arian Foster (I was praying no one would reach for him before 5 - got him too) Forte in round 5 or later (Scott got him 5 places before me in round 6) and Bradshaw really late. Seeing White go didn't surprise since that's song's boy. My main target as a WR1 this season was Jennings (had a good year in 2009 but only had 4 touchdowns on a very good offense) and whoever else slipped. It happened that the QB situation in Ariz scared people away from Fitzgerald and I was happy to take him at 23.
(Side note about Fitzgerald: Since when does a WR need a top notch QB to be a productive fantasy wifeout? Megatron has been picked in the top 15 or so every season with an unproven QB since he got into the league. Andre Johnson still put numbers up while Rosenfels was in and Shaub was out. I think the standard is different for Fitz because he had a very good QB last season and now he's getting a crappy one. I think when there's elite talent you can ignore, to some degree, the mitigating factors. You don't take him as a top 5 receiver but you don't pass him up at 23 either. I also don't believe that Boldin's departure will have an affect on his numbers all that much. Teams have been rolling safeties over with or without Boldin in the lineup. If anything he'll get more red zone looks. He's not catching 97 balls again but I'm betting he's a top 7 fantasy wideout)
1. | Greg Jennings | Death Roe |
| 2. | Tom Brady | redhypocycloid |
| 3. | Pierre Thomas | Low Country Terps |
| 4. | Cedric Benson | bluehypocycloid |
| 5. | Steve Smith | McKinney Maulers |
| 6. | Tony Romo | First Down Syndrome |
| 7. | Beanie Wells | Anchor Babies |
| 8. | Dallas Clark | TheYellowDart |
| 9. | Jahvid Best | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 10. | Marques Colston | G9s |
| 11. | Jamaal Charles | Chris Roe is Great |
| 12. | DeSean Jackson | Hamski |
This round we start to see strategies falling apart. Todd's autodraft of Thomas with Benson and Charles on the board stands out. Steve Smith of the Giants going before the Carolina version is a bit of a shock and I believe will be proven a mistake. Dallas Clark should definitely be the first TE of the board but round three for a loaded position seems like a stretch (as does the head-scratcher of taking a defense in round 4).
Steal of the round: Jamaal Charles, I'm not scared by T. Jones at all. If anything it'll help insure that Charles will be healthy come fantasy playoff time.
Reach of the round: No matter how good Dallas Clark is the TE's psotion is loaded this year and there are values to be had in the later rounds.
| Round 4 | ||
|---|---|---|
| 1. | LeSean McCoy | Hamski |
| 2. | Anquan Boldin | Chris Roe is Great |
| 3. | Percy Harvin | G9s |
| 4. | Steve Smith | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 5. | New York | TheYellowDart |
| 6. | Antonio Gates | Anchor Babies |
| 7. | Jonathan Stewart | First Down Syndrome |
| 8. | Chad Ochocinco | McKinney Maulers |
| 9. | Brett Favre | bluehypocycloid |
| 10. | Ronnie Brown | Low Country Terps |
| 11. | Wes Welker | redhypocycloid |
| 12. | Michael Crabtree | Death Roe |
Randy's eagle onslaught continues at the top of this one. Mark broke my heart with his Welker pick as I was all ready to take Welker / Crabtree here but in the end my strategy should have been what ended up happening. Foster in round 5 is right at his ADP. So thanks Laird. I would have sunk myself with no clear RB2. There ended being so much value in WR's later it would have been a huge mistake for me to take 4 WR's in a row and pass up a clear cut #1 RB in a top of the league offense.
Steal of the Round: Steve Smith, Carolina version. He's a WR1 this season with a better QB. He'll probably have twice the points that the other one has.
Reach of the round: A DEFENSE!? One without its best player no less. All the general research on Defenses and Kickers say that the difference between good ones and average ones (which you can always get given that there's 32 teams and we only field 12 each week with no one carrying more than one) is negligible over a full season. I hate to eat into my competitive advantage but there you have it. I'm never taking a DEF or Kicker before the last rounds.
| 1. | Arian Foster | Death Roe |
| 2. | Hines Ward | redhypocycloid |
| 3. | Philip Rivers | Low Country Terps |
| 4. | Jermichael Finley | bluehypocycloid |
| 5. | Vernon Davis | McKinney Maulers |
| 6. | Dwayne Bowe | First Down Syndrome |
| 7. | Hakeem Nicks | Anchor Babies |
| 8. | Joseph Addai | TheYellowDart |
| 9. | Mike Sims-Walker | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 10. | Knowshon Moreno | G9s |
| 11. | Felix Jones | Chris Roe is Great |
| 12. | Jeremy Maclin | Hamski |
So i snagged Foster here. It was very close between Forte (who I think rebounds) and Foster. But I went with the better offense. Song got his man in Finley. Not too big a reach for a TE that projects as the #2 at his position but way too much for a guy who'll miss half the season with injury.
Steal of the Round: Arian Foster, he's a top 5 back.
Reach of the Round: Jermichael Finley, the hype cost Mike a chance at a legit WR2 (now he's being forced to start Wallace as a 2 and Evans?! as a 3
| Round 6 | ||
|---|---|---|
| 1. | Tony Gonzalez | Hamski |
| 2. | Jason Witten | Chris Roe is Great |
| 3. | Brent Celek | G9s |
| 4. | Pierre Garcon | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 5. | Donald Driver | TheYellowDart |
| 6. | Malcom Floyd | Anchor Babies |
| 7. | Matt Forte | First Down Syndrome |
| 8. | Ricky Williams | McKinney Maulers |
| 9. | Mike Wallace | bluehypocycloid |
| 10. | Santana Moss | Low Country Terps |
| 11. | Terrell Owens | redhypocycloid |
| 12. | Johnny Knox | Death Roe |
The run on TE happens in this round. I had my sights set on Zach Miller so I wasn't worried. This is where I wanted to get a QB and TE but none of the TE's I was targeting were gone so i went with my favorite break out receiver in Johny Knox. He seems to have the best chemistry with Cutler and Martz will always find a way to get the ball in the hands of his most talented players (Knox and Forte). Also, the bears open against the league's worst defense.
Steal of the Round: I love Forte here. I would have taken him if Scott hadn't. The new offense could hurt him early but he should be back to form from 2 years ago.
Reach of the Round: Mike Wallace, the only reason I can see taking him this early is that we have steelers fans that would reach to get him. Wallace is a popular sleeper and might produce once they get a QB who can go down field but he's not going to sneak up on anyone this season. He has bust written all over him.
| 1. | Jay Cutler | Death Roe |
| 2. | Pittsburgh | redhypocycloid |
| 3. | T.J. Houshmandzadeh | Low Country Terps |
| 4. | Clinton Portis | bluehypocycloid |
| 5. | New Orleans | McKinney Maulers |
| 6. | C.J. Spiller | First Down Syndrome |
| 7. | Kevin Kolb | Anchor Babies |
| 8. | Marion Barber | TheYellowDart |
| 9. | Eli Manning | Ribs-N-Whiskey |
| 10. | Ahmad Bradshaw | G9s |
| 11. | Devin Aromashodu | Chris Roe is Great |
| 12. | Joe Flacco | Hamski |
I ended up taking the best QB on the board here despite my misgivings about him. He's not going to be fun to own but his ceiling seems to be higher than Eli or Flacco. I never once thought about taking Kolb as I want to root for him to fail all year.
Reach(es) of the round: Any Defense and Clinton Portis (nuff said)
Steal of the Round:Ahmad Bradshaw, clearly the more talented back with less of an injury risk than jacobs. He's a solid RB2/3
Rounds 8-15
Some highlights: Everyone I picked and Carnell Williams in round 10. No one likes to draft Cadillac but he's a clear #1 on a team that going to run a lot. Ben ROEthlesberger. Could easily end up the steal of the draft.
Some lowlights: Mark Snachez? Granted he hasn't looked any better than Cutler I think the jets are going to have a hard time winning 8 game with this clown as their QB. You could also argue against drafting a backup QB at all given that there will always be good backups available week to week. Golden tate a #5 receiver on Seattle. Sweet.
Good luck this season everyone (Especially you Randy in Week 1 when the hammer comes down on your season from the jump.)
- ROE | ||
I should note that despite having the strategy of loading up on RB's late I didnt end up doing that because I thought there was more value at WR.
ReplyDelete- Roe
first of all i want to inform you that if scott didn't pick matt forte you still wouldn't have gotten him because i was going to take him three picks before you. i'll give you a minute to ponder that.
ReplyDeleteso with forte gone, i instead picked mike wallace. now... lets talk about how shitty a pick that was. and just to provide some context, lets look at the next 3 subsequent picks who also happened to be WRs: Santana Moss, TO and Johnny Knox (in that order).
yes, santana moss could have an awesome year with mcnabb but i honestly don't see any single WR thriving in the WR trainwreck that is DC. The only receiver i see benefiting from that mess is chris cooley. what is more likely the case is that moss does what he has done in the past 3 seasons which is show up everyday, play his fucking ass off and ultimately not amount to much value fantasy-wise. yawn. i'll take wallace.
that brings us to TO... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! are you kidding me right now? we're talking about the "that's my quarterback" TO right? dude is a washed up has-been who is not only afraid of getting hit but he knows his days are over and that this will be his last pay-day. needless to say, i'm not worried about TO at all. he's about 2 seasons away from being a professional reality tv show contestant. the only kind of person who would pick TO is someone who has been out of fantasy football for 2+ years. ahem.
finally we have johnny knox... i would just like to remind you that jay cutler is one of the worst QBs in the NFL. there i said it. Arm strength does not a good QB make. just ask Jay Schroeder, Jeff George, Jemarcus Russell and Jason Campbell. Cutler sucked for years until he didnt and as soon as that happened the broncos couldn't have been quicker to unload him. hmm wonder why? remember when jay cutler had brandon marshall? remember when jay cutler had eddie royal? well i know eddie royal (through my wife) eddie royal is a friend of mine (through my wife) and johnny knox is no eddie royal and he sure as hell aint no brandon marshall. oh yeah.. lets also not forget... johnny knox is white. i'm just sayin.
so in conclusion... i'm willing to bet money that (if he stays healthy) Mike Wallace out-fantasy-performs all three of those receivers. there i said it.
Is this the same Jay Cutler you were sweating about as hard as was humanly possible a couple years ago when he was on your team?
ReplyDelete-BG
that was the year he was good. the one year. the ONE year. ONE. UNO. EINS. go ask Uta what Eins means. hint... its also the number of times that i won this fantasy football league.
ReplyDelete"Cutler sucked for years until he didnt and as soon as that happened the broncos couldn't have been quicker to unload him."
You like Mike Wallace so much you're not even starting him.
ReplyDelete- Roe
Cutler has been overrated to a degree, but come on, he sucked for years? Seriously? You realize the one good year you talk about (2008) was only his third season in the league, second as a starter? And that in 2007 he had a slightly higher QB rating and better TD/interception ratio than he did in 2008? And that his QB rating in each of his first two years was slightly better than Tom Brady's in each of his first two years as a starter? So really, he sucked for years and had one good year and that's why the Broncos traded him?
ReplyDeleteHe left the Broncos because they got a new coach who tried to replace him with his his own guy, Matt Cassel, who he had personally groomed in New England. That was a questionable move to begin with but grooming QBs and having his guy at the position is Josh McDaniels' thing. When the Cassel deal didn't work out the Broncos apparently tried to get Cutler to stay, but Cutler felt disrespected and requested the trade. I'm not a huge fan of Cutler. He may have a terrible year, but let's deal with facts.
My Cutler pick was a Value pick. I feel like he's the 7th best fantasy QB. The interceptions last seasons were an anomaly. (Just like Farve's lack of interceptions). The idea was take care of RB and WR and take my chances at QB (I could play matchups all year if cutler sucks).
ReplyDeletedon't even make me go back and show you all the QBs that went AFTER you picked sorry-ass cutler. its a veritable fantasy smorgasbord. news flash: you suck.
ReplyDeleteand glacc... let enlighten you with this clip from south park:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kHiMg2TvM
oh this one is even better!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIvp3uFYbvw
touché. That was one of the funniest Southpark episodes ever.
ReplyDeleteI'm just trying to figure out why you're so bitter Song. No one is making you start Wallace. No one is forcing your hand to bench Camarillo and go with the "deep threat" that has Charlie batch or Jaun Dixon throwing to him. Ease down. EASE DOWN! ease down. The 115 points you're going to score this week is a fine point total. No reason to be self-conscious about only having one good receiver.
ReplyDelete- Roe
Oh I figured out why you're so insecure. I did this: Went to league clicked players tab. Switched to all players / All offense / Week 1(proj) and saw that Mike only has one player projected in the top 25.
ReplyDeletebut you know what is way more interesting? I did this: Went to the league clicked the "ALL TIME" tab right above the standings / looked at all the years this league has existed and who won each year / and saw that Roe has ZERO rings and i have one.
ReplyDeletegame. set. match.
Here we go. How can you brag about a ring you got when I wasn't even in the league and you were up against 5 other teams? If that's all you got you better hang em up chief.
ReplyDelete- Check mate
there were 10 teams in that league. i was points leader and had the best record. once again...
ReplyDeleteGAME. SET. MATCH.
the people who were in that league were:
ReplyDeleteMe
Glacc
Smeef
Willy
Randy
Matt Snyder
Jay Snyder
Jason Laird
Mark Laird
Phat P
7 of that 10 are in our current league.
come on, roe... revisionist history sucks. stop being dick cheney. :)